Glyphosate in White Rock Drinking Water

Besides arsenic, manganese, and lead, they have now found Glyphosate (also known as Round-Up) in our drinking water. While the city continues to pour millions of our tax dollars down the drain, building more wells, and ignoring the obvious: White Rock well water is unhealthy and we need to switch to Metro Vancouver water as recommended by Fraser Health back in 2013.

In case you did not know, Glyphosate in high doses has been shown to cause cancer with high probability, and there is some evidence that it is also linked to gene mutations, which are also a possible cause of Cancer. Risk associated with low doses of Glyphosate are still unclear.

Shouldn’t our Mayor and Council warn us about this risk in our drinking water?  Why is Fraser Health being silent on this? What should White Rock do about this? The answer is clear: we need to switch to safe and clean Metro Vancouver drinking water now!

Want more details on Glyphosate? Listen to the pod cast by clicking on the picture below, or read more at here

Click below for the PodCast with Council Critic Ross Buchanan. Our thanks to Ross for bringing this to our attention! Shouldn’t the Mayor and Fraser Health have raised this issue to?


Is any amount of Arsenic, Manganese, Chloramine and other chemicals safe in your water? An Interview with Dennis Lypka.

UBC Associate Professor Dr. Trevor Drummer, of the Cancer Prevention Centre at UBC, was in White Rock on July 26th, and used data and facts to show evidence that drinking White Rock water with high levels of arsenic poses a health risk. He added that in his opinion, he would not drink White Rock water with high arsenic levels, and believes that the current Health Canada Guideline needs to be reduced.

Mayor Wayne Baldwin has been quoted in the paper as saying “The arsenic does occasionally pop up, not from the whole system, but from one or two wells,” Baldwin said. “If it blends with the rest of the water, it’s OK, it’s not an issue.”

Mayor Baldwin says that IF this high arsenic water blends with the rest of the water, then it’s ok. What he failed to mention is that the city currently has no way to blend water in a controlled way to reduce arsenic levels. Listen to facts, not political spin.

Rather than listen to facts, Politicians provide Alternative-Facts that make themselves look good by minimizing the perception of health risks, while doing nothing to eliminate the risks themselves. Who do you believe?

How much Arsenic, Manganese, Chloramine and other chemicals is too much to be safe in your water? Dennis Lypka, one of the founding members of the White Rock Safe Water Alliance, discusses our water and health risks in the following interview.

Arsenic and its Impact on your Health – A Free Information Session, July 27th 7pm

To All White Rock Water Users:

Please feel free to spread this far and wide among White Rock water users.

Drinking Water, Arsenic, and Cancer

Well aware that Arsenic in drinking water can be a serious health issue because Arsenic is a known carcinogen, back on February 17, 2014, the Fraser Health Authority directed the EPCOR White Rock (EWR) Water Utility to prepare an Arsenic and Manganese Management plan that considered monitoring, options for managing arsenic and manganese levels, public education and outreach, and a contingency plan to address non-compliance with the maximum allowable concentration. Fraser Health also recommended that EPCOR conduct a risk assessment that considered the health, public and financial aspects of options for addressing arsenic and manganese.

EPCOR responded to Fraser Health on April 30, 2014 and EPCOR’s s response, entitled Arsenic and Manganese Risk Management Plan EPCOR White Rock Water System,is also attached.

In its response, EPCOR  provided its proposed plan to manage the arsenic and manganese levels in the White Rock system at that time (2014) and in the future including:

  • –  continued monitoring of arsenic and manganese levels in the system;
  • a treatment plan;
  • –  public education and communication plan; and
  • –  a contingency plan

However, unfortunately neither EPCOR nor the City of White Rock (who took over sole control, responsibility  and operation of the water utility in October of 2015) has done anything with respect to the requirement for an Arsenic and Manganese “public education and communication plan“.

Nor, unfortunately, has Fraser Health required either EPCOR or the City of White Rock as the water utility operator to comply to its past directions on “public education and outreach” about Arsenic and Managanese.

As a result, arrangements have been made by other concerned White Rock water users to bring in a guest speaker, Dr. Trevor Dummer, to speak about “Drinking Water, Arsenic and Your Health”. Dr. Dummer is an Associate Professor in the Cancer Prevention Centre at UBC and is an Investigator for the Canadian Cancer Society.      

Attendance is FREE and as will be noted on the attached poster, the meeting will take place as follows:

 7 PM Wednesday, July 26, 2017

 at the White Rock First United Church, 15385 Semiahmoo Avenue, White Rock.

Everyone is welcome, please try to attend and please feel free to spread this notice far and wide.

Due Diligence

As White Rock government  splashes  taxpayer money around in efforts to convince the great unwashed  that water quality is priority one, they  divert attention away from one simple fact. There is a good chance that local government  has not done proper due diligence during the purchasing process. Once that possibility is duly appreciated, the relationship between mysterious  water  conditions  and current management may be of more interest to the water-consuming  public.

Due diligence requires  execution to a “standard of care”. A standard is an arguable, philosophic concept except where it is spelled out in legal terms.

Regardless, some facts are pertinent.

Epcor discontinued the stated White Rock Utility goal of having no pipes over 25 years of age.

Once the disinfection mandate was in place, huge sections of the distribution  system  were  likely close to  worthless.  Only due diligence by experienced organic chemists could have canvassed  that possibility.

Were they consulted?  You may well ask.

Local government is buying  a utility whose price should  factor in a highly depreciated  distribution system.

The system  may likely need major upgrades no matter what the source water. Meanwhile does government  believe that tweaking and flushing  will be the only work needed on the existing pipe system, given the stated desire to  stick to heavy metal groundwater?

If the price is still being negotiated or in any part still to be arbitrated, will Epcor claim it is White Rock’s level of competence in their chemistry experiments that is causing  problems,  not the piping system ?

Figures floated to the public constitute no proof that treating heavy metal well water is going to cost less than paying to join the Metro Vancouver water system.

There is no proof on offer that piping will not be an ongoing  problem even with arsenic and manganese removed from the groundwater at source.

There is no proof  on offer that grant money would not be available to both join the  Metro water system  and upgrade the piping system. Or that the Metro entry fee could not be arbitrated just as it will likely be with Semiahmoo First Nation.

Were  any of these proofs sought after and manifest in evidentiary form,  were they now the subject of public  rather than secret debate, one might suppose  that local government  had performed  a certain level  of  due diligence.

David Riley – Founding Member,
The White Rock Safe Water Alliance



Is White Rock’s water damaging your home?

What is our water doing to our homes? This is a picture of the inside of the water pipes heading into a local Condo building from the Water Meter. 

The pipe in these pictures was nearly blocked by the vast amounts of brown sludge coming into it from White Rock’s water supply! As water rushing through this tiny gap, it picks up this sludge and it ends up in your water heater, and in your water glass.

If this damages hot water heaters, what is it doing to your health?

It is important that Strata owners and single family home owners have their pipes inspected, and take a sample of this sludge and have it analyzed by Exova in North Surrey. Document the levels of Arsenic, Manganese, Lead, and Bacteria (if any).

Know what you are drinking! 
Have your Water Meter pipes inspected, and take a sample of any deposits you find. Have your water and this sludge checked by an Independent Lab such as Exova in North Surrey.

If you have health concerns about our water, the Fraser Health Board is meeting this June 16th. You can submit a question about your water to the Fraser Health board online here. The deadline for submitting questions is 4 PM, Tuesday June 13th. 


White Rock’s Brown Drinking Water could have been avoided if City Hall had listened to Fraser Health in 2013

Residents have been told that their brown water is caused by pipes within their own building, but does anyone think it is credible that hundreds of different buildings would simultaneously have the same brown water issue independently. Neither do we!

The city has received well over 500 complaints about brown water.  Seems far more likely that the City is at fault. What is in this water, and is it safe to drink? It is time to call Fraser Health and demand that we find out what is in our water and what they are going to do about cleaning it up. Fraser Health needs to make Mayor Baldwin and City Council clean up our drinking water now, by connecting us up to Vancouver Metro water as Fraser Health recommended in 2013. You can read about Fraser Health’s recommendation here.

Read what the Peace Arch News is saying about our dirty White Rock water here.

Brown Water once again in Coldicutt Area

Our Tax Dollars at Work?

Our water bills keep going up, our services that we get for our tax dollars, along with the quality of our water, keep going down. This is what tap water looked like this morning, June 5th 2017, in the Coldicutt area of White Rock. 

If you live along the Oxford Street corridor, you may be more likely to have brown water coming from your taps these days. The brown color comes from the high manganese levels on the West side of White Rock. The West side (water from the Oxford and High Street wells) usually has the higher manganese level, while the East side (water from the Merklin well site) usually has the highest concentration of arsenic.

More Arsenic or More Maganese

Is it time for another demonstration at City Hall?
The Mayor and Council do not seem to be listening. If interested in joining a rally for clean water. please contact the White Rock Safe Water Alliance through email at We will add you to our mailing list and keep you informed about upcoming rallies on water.

Manganese and Your Health

The brown  water seen in many of our taps in White Rock is often caused by high levels of Manganese from our well water. When the city chose to add Chlorine to our water, as mandated by Fraser Health, this caused the Manganese to precipitate out, causing muddy brown water. Adding chlorine is the recommended way to get rid of Manganese, combined with filtering at the water pumping site. White Rock city council has chosen not to do filtering at this time, so this unfiltered mess finds it’s way into our homes. If you receive your water from the Oxford well, your water is likely high in Manganese. If your water comes from another well such as Merklin, your Manganese levels will be lower and your water clear. Which well do you get your water from?

More Arsenic or More Maganese

What is White Rock City Hall doing about the high levels of Manganese?
To hide this brown mess, White Rock decided to add ammonia in the form of Chloramine to the water. This only hides the Manganese, it is still in your water, now combined with Chloramine. While low levels of Manganese is only considered a cosmetic problem, higher amounts have been linked to Health Canada has linked higher levels to health problems such as impairment of cognitive brain function and lower IQs in children.

So is Chloramine the best solution for Whiter Whites? 
No! Chloramine hides the Manganese but creates ever bigger problems!

Chloramine corrodes older pipes, leaching lead into drinking water .
Lead in drinking water is a serious health problem. Chloramine can cause the lead in older pipes to leach into drinking water. You can read more about the affects of Chloramine at the Chloramine Info Center.

Chloramine kill Marine Life
While Chlorine in tap water dissipates and has only short term impact on marine life, Chloramine run-off does not dissipate and is deadly to salmon and marine life. While many cities use Chloramine, cities near environmentally sensitive marine environments do not. Vancouver and Surrey both stopped using it after salmon runs were devastated in nearby creeks by the chloramine.

At the January 11 2016 Council Meeting, Mayor Baldwin voted against the use of Chloramine due to risks to salmon in the Campbell River on Semiahmoo First Nation land:

Mayor Baldwin: “it is not acceptable for us to allow chloraminated water to go into the Campbell River which is part of the Semiahmoo First Nations traditional grounds it is their water in essence. And it is disrespectful, it would be disrespectful to do that, to create an environmental situation in their traditional grounds.”

How does Manganese affect your health?
In a 2010 assessment by Health Canada, while exposure to small amounts of Manganese is considered safe, long-term exposure to “moderate levels of exposure can result in worsening of subclinical neurological function including fine motor control, tremor, memory and cognitive ability”, especially if inhaled (as in a shower). A 2011 study published in the journal “Environmental Health Perspectives” concluded that “exposure to manganese at levels common in groundwater is associated with intellectual impairment in children”.

How much Manganese is safe, and how much is too much?
Health Canada, in its 2016 report, stated that the maximum acceptable concentration (MAC) for drinking water is 0.1 mg/L, while the MAC for aesthetics is 0.02 mg/L. White Rock sets the Guideline limit of 0.05 mg/L.

Several of the City’s wells exceeded the guideline limit for Manganese in the latest posted March 2017 water metal test results:
Water Test Results - March 2017 - Highlighted
As reported in the PAN on July 21st 2016 here:

Manganese levels for May show the Merklin Low Reservoir registering 0.119 mg. per litre, the Stevens sample station at 0.112, the Roper PVR at 0.111 and the Russell Avenue sample station at 0.109 – all more than twice the guideline maximum level of 0.05 mg/L – all more than twice the guideline maximum level of 0.05 mg/L.

Health Canada also indicates that inhaled Manganese is a concern, and should be limited to 0.05 micrograms/cubic meter according to this 2010 Health Canada report “Human Health Risk Assessment for Inhaled Manganese“. So if your water is very high in Manganese, you may want to avoid showers and take baths instead.

What is White Rock doing about this?

The city is planning on spending $14M on treatment plants at Oxford and Merklin sites, with an annual operating and maintenance cost of $400k/year. These plants will not be ready until at least 2019, one year after the next election. Is this money well spent or is it too little too late?

What do we think White Rock should do?
To us, the answer is clear. As recommended by Fraser Health back in 2013, we beleive White Rock should connect up to clean and safe Vancouver City water. In the long run, it is cheaper and safer as it is managed by Vancouver by a large team of water quality professions. White Rock’s well water has too many problems, and it is too expensive to fix them all within our small city by the Sea.

What’s in your Water?

That depends on which well you get your water from. Some wells are high in Manganese, while others are higher in Arsenic. The recommended maximum level for Manganese is 0.05 mg/L, while the maximum for arsenic is 0.01 mg/L.

Water Test Results - March 2017 - Highlighted

The above chart is from March 2017. How good is your drinking water?

Chloramine Info Center

The City is adding Chloramine to help get rid of problems with brown water experienced by many White Rock Residents. But is this the best solution for Whiter Whites? 

Chloramine hides the Manganese but creates ever bigger problems!

Chloramine is deadly to Marine Life!
Surrey stopped using Chloramine after it killed all the salmon in nearby creeks. Chloramine is deadly to marine life. Mayor Baldwin back in the January 11th 2016 Council Meeting rejected Chloramine due to its potential impact on Salmon in nearby Campbell River on the Semiahmoo First Nations land.

How does Chloramine affect your health
Chloramine corrodes older pipes, leaching lead into drinking water. Lead in drinking water is a serious health problem. Chloramine can cause the lead in older pipes to leach into drinking water. You can read more about the affects of Chloramine and how it affected the residents of Flint Michigan at the Chloramine Info Center.

Chloramine Information Center